in the philippines, steve? >> i think what we have to say is this is significant forward leap for them well beyond what previous tests accomplished. i think it would be a mistake on our part to assume that future leaps forward are in the distant future only. they seem to aggressively pursued a vansment here. kim jong-un, the new young leader, succeeded where his father has failed. it is significant propaganda today victory. they're moving forward as one of the most sanctioned countries. bill: even with all the sanctions they pulled this off. they tried for years to make this happen and they have. two critical points we need to point out here. it is yet to develop a nuclear warhead small enough to fit on top of one of these missiles. that's a big deal. the other point is it has not tested a reentry vehicle that can with stand the heat of the atmosphere. so how effective today, steve? >> i think what it is, you're absolutely correct, they have not finished demonstrating a full capability to deliver this lethal ca